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    Altec 3-way active

    Hi,

    I'm currently running the 802 and 416-8A in a short horn cabinet and have come across a pair of 414s. I'd like to try a active 3way now.

    The idea is to handle the 300-3000hz range with the 414. Since it is the midrange I'm also thinking of avoiding parallel dimensions.

    What would be the ideal sealed cabinet size here ? The dimensions I have in mind are 15x16x17, works to roughly 2.36 Cft.

    Any advise would be welcome. Thanks.

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    Are you asking for cabinet size for the 414 the 416 or both ?

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    You posted this thread a month ago are you still looking for the information ?

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    I built the 3way with the 414. My posts are under moderation.

    Will post details when I get past the 10th post I guess.

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    ....continuing where I left off.....

    The present system is a 515/288 in a 5.6Cft cabinet and Klangfilm horn (302 I think). I like the 414 and thought about experimenting with a 3-way ( ~ 2.4 Cft sealed ).

    The box is well braced and nearing completion. Any ideas on deciding the XO points. The present 515/288 is running via a MiniDSP@800Hz, 2nd order BW. It is equalized at the low end, the upper end and around the 2000 point (attenuated), where the response is very strong.

    Tossing between 200 /800 and 100/1200 hz. Any ideas would be welcome.

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    No clue without horn design details, output impedance of the system. Right now all I know is that the 'sweet spot' for the 515 is around 500 Hz.

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    The 515 is in a regular 5.6Cft box. The 414 is in a similar 2.4Cft box. Front width of both is 20".

    One reason for the 200Hz point - 20" width gives an f3 of ~220hz, should this matter /be considered ?

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    Again, I know nothing about Klangfilm horns.

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    Can we ignore for now and solve the Bass /Mid xover bit...:S

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    Re: Altec 3-way active

    Let me take a shot at it, so, here goes....

    The 414 pair has original Altec cones. It cannot go very low though. I measured close range and this is what it does. By 2K there's a drop of almost 10dB.

    Here's the TS spec.

    * This data was exported from DATS the Dayton Audio Test System
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    * Manufacturer: Altec Lansing
    * Model: 414-16b
    * Piston Diameter = 260.4 mm
    * f(s)= 55.85 Hz
    * R(e)= 11.81 Ohms
    * Z(max)= 58.32 Ohms
    * Q(ms)= 1.862
    * Q(es)= 0.4726
    * Q(ts)= 0.3769
    * V(as)= 126.8 liters (4.478 cubic feet)
    * L(e)= 2.834 mH
    * n(0)= 4.458 %
    * SPL= 98.59 1W/1m
    * M(ms)= 25.49 grams
    * C(ms)= 0.319 mm/N
    * BL= 14.95
    * K(r)= -2.44e-005
    * X(r)= 1.237
    * K(i)= 8.388e+006
    * X(i)= -1.153

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